COP 17 - A Conference of Parties, A World of Disparities

COP 17 AT DURBAN
The left is perpetually seeking a way to seize more control of the economy and
derail capitalist industrialization. Global warming appeared to be such a
convenience, which is why they seized hold of it so quickly and firmly, and
sought a rush to judgement before the facts were in.
Who can forget that
pompous, sanctimonious, scientifically illiterate, blowhard Al Gore declaring
"the science is settled?" At that moment, even though I wasn't then that versed
in climate science, I was certain that it wasn't, just by the way he insisted.
"Methinks he doth protest too much." It must be disconcerting for him to look in
a mirror (while applying his makeup) and see a fool; he was used by
environmental radicals for their own ends.
Fortunately, the "deniers"
(read: properly skeptical scientific literates) delayed massive, expensive
government interactions while the science was further explored. With the recent
abandonment of the "consensus" by many scientists, the whole scheme is
unraveling.
Don't let down your guard, though. In a couple of years, the
left will be predicting some other catastrophe as an excuse to kill the energy
industry, tax the Internet, repress free speech, or something
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No,no,no! Global warming is real! So what if a few facts and figures were
fudged? Man is raping the planet with his quest for riches, and stuff (except my
iPad). So how could it be anything but true? The seriousness of the charges
warrants spending this kind of money on these good scientists so that they can
keep their studies, livelihood, and prestige going. There, I feel so much better
having got that off my chest. Who's up for a Starbucks? We can take my Suburban.
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Funny that everyone wants to throw "science" under the bus and this article
somehow infers that global warming alarmist act like it is religion. Religion is
based on faith and not science. Global warming denial is also based on faith and
not science. At least be honest and call global warming an issue not worth the
money to address no matter what the consequences. If you are right and and we
waste 1% of gdp what a shame. If you are wrong then explain to your grandkids
about how it was all worth getting to drive that Suburban to Starbucks.
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Mr. Stephens promotes a view, not an argument. He prefers to focus on a few
email notes, some inconsistent facts, and a small minority of scientist that
believe otherwise. He prefer make grand statements out of minor comments such as
"Himalayan glaciers, it turned out, weren't going to melt in 30 years" even
through he ignores that it was a single quote in a large volume of work (that
most did not believe when it was published, and as it turned out was a quote
from a magazine interview of a scientist opinion) and forgets to mention that
they are melting anyway.
His argument is the same as those used to
discounted Galileo. There is simply a range of people that will not accept
contradictions to their beliefs until evidence is overwhelming. The science of
climate change will continue to evolve and get better, and its data will be
reinterpreted as the knowledge grows greater. But Mr. Stephens promotes a view
to ignore the all because of some inconsistencies (which become fewer as the
science evolves) or because some conclusions turn out unfounded as new
information is found.
I cannot say if the current conclusions of climate
science will be the one left standing. But I can say I support their approach to
continued efforts to collect and interpret data, and I reject Mr. Stephens "it's
all wrong unless it's all right" thinking. It's a worthless opinion piece that
can be viewed in the last paragraph of comparing science and religion. That in
itself shows how silly his argument is
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The knowledge of climate change can be understood by sixth grade students using
simple observation and analysis by the same computers that predict that
airplanes will fly.
Go to a laboratory. Burn some oil and test for release
of a gas called carbon dioxide (CO2). Watch how CO2 in a tube absorbs heat from
a candle.
Look up measurements of how much oil, coal and natural gas man has
burned, and records of the rise in the amount of CO2 in air over the past
century. Compare those figures to the rise in average Earth temperatures during
the same time. Notice how they correlate.
Now make a prediction. The oceans
are huge; it takes longer for water to warm up than air. So the warmer air will
continue to make the oceans and land warmer for decades after we increase the
CO2 in air. The CO2 we emit now will keep temperatures rising over many decades
and keep them high for centuries.
Why is this bad? Warmer air makes water
evaporate more, so the land dries out more in the summer, causing tree stress,
fires, and drought. More water vapor in the air means we get more rain and snow
in the winter, so flooding. Polar caps and glaciers melt and the ocean gets too
acid for shellfish. Sixth grade science.
History tells us that denialism is
more expensive.
If Neville Chamberlain had persuaded England to arm earlier
and intervene before the German war machine scaled up would that not have saved
much expense and many lives?
Now, ironically, Germany has been leading the
way to help the world fight global warming by subsidizing clean energy so that
it can scale up and its costs plummet to where they are now competitive.
Can
the United States gather the courage to resist the massive campaign by the oil,
coal and natural gas industries to sell every last bit of their product? Using
the same scientists who proclaimed that tobacco smoke is not dangerous, and that
the hole in the ozone layer and acid rain should be ignored, the Petroleum
industry has been fighting action to stop climate change. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-br8Yewo9A0&NR=1
Global
warming is not a religion. That is an insult to every person of faith. The
Creation is a gift. Human intelligence is a gift. The ability to observe,
measure, analyze and predict would not have been given to us if we were not
intended to use it to show respect for our fellow human and the world that
provides for our needs."For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of
power, and of love, and of a sound mind." II Tim. 1:7
Engineers and
entrepreneurs have invented technology that allows us to keep our homes warm
using tiny amounts of energy, and to make electricity from sunlight. Their work
is not religious, but practical.
We need to start today to make every
product, building and vehicle as energy efficient as possible and every energy
development low carbon clean energy. http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/anti-global-warming-push-also-best-economy
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There are three, count 'em THREE key elements to the whole climate change debate...
◘ That the earth is in fact 'warming' at all,
◘ That the contribute due to HUMAN BEHAVIOR is effectively being measured, and
◘ That assuming both of the above are true, there is any way to effect a change in human behavior in the countries guilty of the most violations.
Those are some huge assumptions. The best analysis of this that I've read on global warming was done by Michael Crichton in his extensive appendix to his novel 'State of Fear.' Crichton was anything but stupid; BA Summa in biological anthropology from Harvard (became a travelling Fellow and then taught same at Cambridge), then MD from Harvard and residency at the Jonas Salk Institute in LaJolla. ( He published under pseudonyms during this period, and his writing awards are too numerous to list. He ended up a visiting writer at MIT.)
This appendix one of the most brilliant pieces of nonfiction writing I've ever seen: beautifully logical, flawless in catching loose ends, and extensively footnoted with reliable authority. IMHO, pro-GW advocates will have to work very hard to overcome Crichton's brilliant argument, and I haven't seen one that addresses it point by point.
There is, however, no doubt that GW has spawned an entire new industry which pays for regulations and increased engineering specs by the mile, and makes only the richest members of society better off. UK's austerity programs are destroying every socioeconomic class except the very rich, and OAPs have their pensions hit hard by QE inflation and fuel allowance cut, but Cameron's dad is making a fortune off useless wind technology (and annoying his neighbors.) Huhne's in the same position..and now throwing £333 Mn to rich SA to make sure they can handle GW (with of course few strings to make sure they spend it on GW initiatives.)
So whether GW is real or not, the issue is whether the money would be better spent on UK citizens who are vulnerable and in need, or on rich folks in or outside of UK to make them even richer while providing little energy at obscene cost.
Read the article HUFFFINGTON POST/Durban Climate Conference - Crunch Time On Climate Change
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So, let's be clear here.
CO2 is a harmless trace gas and plant food, it is not only highly beneficial to life on earth there would be no life without it. More CO2 = more life, its as simple as that. You will notice that the Durban conference has stopped talking about temperature rises, not least because global temperatures are not rising, they have yet to realise that sea levels are now falling faster than they rose in the first place, major storms are well down, storm intensity is well down, rainfall is normal and deserts are receding and worst of all for the CAGW fraud polar ice levels are in fact normal, so much for ice free poles.
Why are these nut cases so utterly determined to cut a harmless trace gas knowing the crippling damage it is inflicting on the world economy, knowing that hundreds of billions of dollars have been squandered in the quest to cut CO2 and it has not even worked, nor will and more importantly nor could it. As the vast majority of CO2 is natural in origin, the tiny human contribution is so small as to be effectively swamped by natural CO2, it isnt even possible to accurately measure the human contribution but is is less than 5% of total atmospheric CO2.
Durban is a fraud, the CAGW insanity is a fraud, the so called science behind it is a fraud. The fraud of the modern age inflicted on a world in crisis brought on in large measure by that fraud. The EU has effectively destroyed itself on the alter of the CAGW fraud, the failure of the EU can be in large part attributed to the CAGW fraud, so its not all bad news then! The irony of the EU destroying itself by its fixation with saving the planet is perhaps the only good thing to come out of the CAGW fraud.
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A lack of belief in MMCC may be one issue for those in Durban to overcome, but there is the rather more significant issue of reality to tackle first of all.
That reality is that the developed world simply does not have enough money to both pay significant climate protection money to developing nations and agree to significant emissions cuts which will do short/medium term damage their own economies. Therefore a decision needs to be made - which one are they going to go for, because they're not going to get both and they might well get neither ?
The reality is also that the representatives of the developed countries know that most of their electorates won't support even some of the moderate renewables schemes. Therefore the greens need to decide what they want - real reductions with shale gas replacing coal and nuclear replacing gas, or flat-lining / ongoing increases in carbon dioxide emissions.
Some tough decisions there. People may not like that message, but flying to Durban, protesting in a skull mask and demanding everything now, including the end of capitalism and the emancipation of women, isn't going to make a useful contribution.
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We should be doing the same, defending our interests rather than trying to become a martyr for no reason. The UK contributes less than 1% of the total emissions in the world, even if we culled all of them, it would make no difference.
The reality is that even if the worst predictions of climate change are true (a dubious assessment, since the climate change models are not falsifiable) it's going to happen anyway. We might as well enjoy the years we have got, and invest in technology to offset the damage (geoengineering), build dams, etc. We must put our national interest first. The idea that there could ever be a world consensus is ludicrous. We can't even have a consensus in the EU among 27 fairly similar States, imagine the situation among 190+ countries.
The greenies are just deluded idealists which will destroy our economy for no benefit at all.
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Look around you. We are living longer lives than we ever have, our waters are cleaner, as is our air quality than the Victorian era. We have some climate challenges, yes, but we also have a lot of technology to address any problems that climate change could bring.
Let's not waste money on ridiculous mitigation schemes that will have little or no impact. For example, I found it hilarious that Al Gore's film suggested Malaria would become more prevalent with climate change. We could solve Global Malaria right now with far less money than we spend on climate mitigation. But we do not do so. We could solve global hunger right now, but we do not do so.
Lets focus on the real issues that people die from day by day, right now.
This is why all the guff in Durban will not achieve much.
You guys are focussing on the wrong things, in the wrong ways.
Read the article GUARDIAN/Durban and the climate change deniers
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Again with the "climate deniers" label? No one denies climate change. Reasonable and equally qualified scientists looking at the same data draw different conclusions as to what the data says. Some say man impacts climate change. Some say climate predictably changes due to normal cycles that have played out countless times over the centuries. Maybe the real deniers here are those that deny climate change is caused solely by natural cycles man can't begin to influence.
There is money to be made (or not lost) by individuals, corporations and countries no matter which way this thing turns so suggesting greed is at play cuts both ways. For me it is less about greed and more about making damn sure something is absolutely indisputably certain before throwing massive amounts of money at it with no guarantee it will make any difference. Few countries no matter how wealthy they are now can afford to throw good money at bad ideas.
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